SPEAKER_00 0:00

So this is what happens when toddlers crash your podcast after dark. You want to say hi?

unknown 0:06

Michael, Michael.

SPEAKER_00 0:08

I love you. I love you. Oh, I'm it. We can't really play dead. Okay. So I guess we'll put the children back to bed.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

Greetings andor salutations and welcome to Imbibe Cinema. I'm Jonathan Steve Leggett, along with my co-hosts Michael Noins. Tricia Leggett. In this episode, we're going to be discussing Michael Showalter's The Big Sick, which is currently available on Prime Video. While imbibing a drink called the Coma Shot, which is oddly enough not a shot. But the recipe as well as some pictures can be found on our website, which is imbibecinema.com. The Imbibe Cinema Podcast is brought to you by the Blue Whiskey Independent Film Festival, otherwise known as Bwiff. Our festival seeks independent character-driven films of all length, styles, and genres. To learn more, please visit us at WIF.com. That is again BWIFF.com. So I'm not gonna lie, uh, this is honestly probably one of my favorites uh that we've had to review already.

SPEAKER_03 1:38

Really?

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Uh yeah, I I I'd actually seen this movie before it went on our list. Uh, and um I loved it then, and I was even more excited to get to watch it again. Awesome. Um, this uh story is absolutely adorable, uh, and uh it's even more interesting because it's true. Um and uh based on true events. Based on true events. Now I'm sure that that some of the dialogue uh was embellished, and again, we we just saw uh a quick interview with uh uh with Emily, uh v. Gordon, and the fact that uh each of them kind of remembered uh the events a little bit differently because obviously they're married. Um but the uh the cast in the crew.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

Well, I'm sorry, I just want to interrupt because that's what married people do, and uh tell you that um anybody out there who is not married and is perfectly in sync with their significant other, and it's like you finish each other's sentences, you know exactly the inner soul of the other being.

SPEAKER_02 2:34

Don't get married.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

No, I'm just saying once you get married, it's like a switch is flipped, and you will never remember. You can love each other all you want, you will never remember anything the same way again. It will always be like you were at two different events. It was raining, it was sunny. Oh, yeah, see what I'm talking about right now?

SPEAKER_04 2:55

Well played.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

You will never ever, ever remember anything again. And well, no, you'll remember things just not the same way.

SPEAKER_04 3:03

Just not the same way. If you don't remember anything ever again, that's a different conversation.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

Like the ice capades. Right. Um that's what I meant to say. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:14

Word of warning. Also, I would argue that you didn't remember things the same way before. No, no, we did more blinking.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

We did. We did not, we did not have the maybe, maybe we did, or maybe we just didn't.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

I don't think you remember it quite the same way.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

No, uh, I also uh thought that I was getting old, and that's why like drinking when you're young, you drink, and and then you're like, Oh, I'm having a fun time and have all this energy. And then when you like I figure, well, you get older, you drink, and you're like, ah, I'm tired, I just want to go to bed. And a friend of mine was like, that isn't the age, that's marriage.

SPEAKER_04 3:46

Oh and well, I get tired when I drink and I'm not married yet, so what does it say about me?

SPEAKER_02 3:52

You're old, happy relationship.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Yes. If you're fully satisfied, happy relationship is just like marriage. Yes, if you're fully satisfied in your relationship if you feel like you're in a safe space, alcohol just makes you tired.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

That's true. Yeah, you don't have to have that party vibe anymore.

SPEAKER_04 4:10

Um Catherine does ask me though often if I'm like, if I want to go partying, do I want to go oon sing? That's that's the particular question. She says Do you want to go oon sing? And I'm like, um, not really. She's like, I don't know, you're dancing in the car, so I think you want to go oon sing.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

Dancing in the car is completely different than oon sing.

SPEAKER_00 4:28

I I car dancing is is a time honored tradition in our family.

SPEAKER_04 4:32

It's a it's a gateway to oon sing.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

No, it's the only way any of us look really cool dancing is in the car.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

Hey, hey.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

I said my family, not yours. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

You're safe, John. I don't know if my family necessarily. John's got this covered. Yeah. I dance like like no one's watching.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

I know.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

And we're all watching.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

And you make sure of it too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

That everyone's watching.

SPEAKER_04 4:57

Yes. Well, yeah, life of the parte. Um sorry, we interrupted you because you were talking about how much you love this movie. And then we were just like, all right, enough of that. We gotta do it.

SPEAKER_02 5:08

Let's run this over the time.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

But speaking of arguing over the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 5:11

Um she's still on the same track.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

So where were we? Your point. My voice.

unknown 5:20

So tired.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

Okay, so the point is uh I had been reading about uh the making of this movie and how um Yes uh part of it is based on their relationship and their courtship. Uh a lot of it is not. Uh, for instance, the subplot about her parents uh and their relationship uh it was a suggestion of uh the producer Judd Apatat. And uh so it was kind of awkward for Emily to explain that to her parents. So we're all like, wait a minute, what now?

SPEAKER_03 5:54

No, hopefully that was a conversation that happened beforehand.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

Yes. Uh and then uh also I read uh also I had read that his family uh never considered disowning him. Spoiler alert. And uh they um when she was sick and he, you know, told his mother everything, uh she was primarily concerned uh that uh Emily would be okay and everything. And uh she was very sympathetic and understanding until Emily was healthy and then she was like, wait a minute, why are you dating a white lady?

SPEAKER_04 6:29

Well, okay. Oh, so that there is still a little bit of that that's real.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

Well, yes, that's uh that that is inherent in the culture.

SPEAKER_04 6:36

I think that the words are sure, but not necessarily, you know, not necessarily throughout the the whole culture. There's always an exception to the rule.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:44

Especially if they're living especially if they're living here and they're embracing, you know, the Moroccan culture. The American culture, and you know, we are a giant melting pot. Yep. And some people melt more.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

Melt melt more. And also some people melt with us. It it wouldn't I I have to bring up my mother because now it is tradition. My mother would tell you that when she was growing up, that everything was neighborhooded uh by you know, background, the Italians, the Irish, the Polish, everybody had their own thing. And uh back then, if you like crossed the street, if you were dating outside, it it was still kind of like, what is going on? That's unusual. And that's not that long ago, and we are in the melting pot. So it's uh I think it's something that everybody can relate to as far as family goes, maybe uh whether it's religion, dating outside of uh religion that your family is uh strongly adhering to, or uh the culture. I think it's something that all families have tradition in a way, and I think that resonates.

SPEAKER_02 7:51

I I actually found it funny because I just saw an interview with Paul Rudd uh who uh was not in this movie. It was not in this movie, but it's important we hear his thoughts. It wow because he's there was an edge to that shit, wasn't there?

SPEAKER_04 8:04

Like this is what this is what lack of sleep.

SPEAKER_02 8:07

Congratulations, John. I've just derailed this for the last 15 minutes. However, how you have a point now about Paul Rudd who has actually I didn't mean it.

SPEAKER_00 8:18

I was trying to be funny, I guess I forced it.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Anyway, uh so I heard this thing from Paul Rudd, who is doing one of those like spicy uh Buffalo or spicy hot sauce uh interviews or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah. Which is another type of podcast. Okay. Um, but specifically, apparently he, and I I don't necessarily know the the full details around it, whether which parent it was, but apparently uh one of his his uh parental units is British. Uh and so he would have like uh uh scones and uh uh uh crumpets uh and tea, like that was a a ritual at his house daily. And while he while he technically knew that nobody else in his neighborhood was doing the exact same thing, it was just it was his tradition, you know, it was a family tradition.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

That's why he doesn't age.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

That's true. He's Benjamin Buttoning.

SPEAKER_04 9:13

That's that afternoon tea.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:16

He's Benjamin Buttoning. So he's actually getting younger. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

Does he look younger now than he did in overnight delivery? You're you're you're right. I think I think actually he's Dorian Graying. I think I think he's gonna pick a portrait somewhere. Um what film are we talking about? Uh that the the casted crew of uh uh The Big Sick uh did an amazing job of keeping uh bringing the script to life and and really keeping uh what what feels unbelievable uh in a real event story uh just really really good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:55

Very, very real. I mean that was that was my feeling uh well watching it a first time and then a second time, I really I felt like every scene as ridiculous as it got, I I felt like we were in a very, very real moment. Yeah. One of the things that that's kind of great about life is you know, when things are really sad, sometimes, you know, humor is is the the best way to to cope. Yeah. And um, I know in in in our family, uh we have had those moments. Trisha and uh my grandfather, when we were at his wake, there was a a particularly funny moment that happened.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

Well, okay. So a little background.

SPEAKER_04 10:40

Okay, Trisha's gonna go there. Yeah, yeah. You know the story.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

All right, so my grandfathers, uh, they had like a grumpy old men relationship, yes.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

Yeah. Walter Math Allen.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

And Jack Lemon.

SPEAKER_02 10:53

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

They they was this cute little reporte they had. Absolutely. Uh and one of their things that they would do uh was uh every time they got to a doorway at the same time, uh Al would always say, Age before beauty, because he wanted to point out Bob is older than Al is. And he's never gonna let that go. You're older than me. I am a youngin' compared to you. And uh so of course Al dives first. And uh God bless his soul. Yes. And so Grandpa Bob is the last. He is the survivor, the older man is still around and uh mostly deaf, but when he wants to be, basically.

SPEAKER_04 11:30

Selective hearing.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

Exactly. And uh may we all be so lucky in our old age. But anyway, uh so the uh in the beginning, the master director, whatever the funeral director gets up and he says good morning. And you know, a lot of people go to church, they kind of like respond in a solemn good morning out of like protocol response. And so they do, and like my mostly deaf grandmother is like, hi.

SPEAKER_04 11:58

It was the highest pitch I've ever heard him. And it was so chippery.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

Like, I'm still here, I win.

SPEAKER_04 12:06

So with that, Trisha and I just uncontrollably start laughing because you know, we're on we're on the verge already. We're so and you know, and and that that emotional like teetering that you're at uh on you know, in those moments. So uh when that happened, it just sent us to this bizarre place where we just started laughing. Mostly shaking. Right, exactly. And mostly because we're trying to not laugh. To make things even worse, is I think it was one of our aunts who is sitting behind us and just reaches forward and puts their hand on on our back.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Because from uh that point of view, you just see people shaking, you assume they're they're crying. Right. We're not.

SPEAKER_04 12:49

We're not, we're just laughing. And so it was an interesting moment because it was it was so funny and so sad at the exact same time. So watching this movie, it made me think about that because of the way that they go back and forth with uh the heavy material, the heavy sadness of the material and humor.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Here's the thing, everybody griefs differently. Uh obviously there are stages of grief. Uh and we could get into a whole other discussion on how long it takes you to get through them. But we won't. Uh I am gonna circle back and say that I had read that the director had said uh, you know, uh a lot of times you need humor. I'm paraphrasing terribly, but you know, humor to get through the some of the darkest things. And that and if you look at any serious drama that has ever really moved you, there are moments that make you laugh because it's human nature at some point to uh just start laughing in the absurd in in the dark. Uh that that can be uh one of the worst moments of your life. So um I think it felt so honest in that respect. Uh and it's just it's a beautiful I mean the I know they improvised quite a bit. Um and on on set they had uh talked about that. And then also Holly Hunter did some strange stuff. Like she surprised me. Uh she moved props around because that made her feel like she was more uh in character. Uh she also uh made sure that uh her daughter and her uh the uh Zoe who played Emily uh and her both had a the same necklace because she felt their relationship would be uh closer like that. This is not the strange stuff, I guess it's not that strange. But uh they did uh evidently the heckle scene where Holly Hunter heckles the heckler.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

The heckler, yeah. The bro who uh yeah, who calls him a terrorist back to ISIS and she's like, What are you recruiting?

SPEAKER_00 14:53

I your ISIS recruiter, what are you telling him to go back? You're trying to get the numbers up, what's wrong with you? And uh yeah, so uh in that uh evidently that scene, which is beautiful, and you can tell here's this woman who is just stressed and she's she's hurting and she's angry because her baby is hurt and there's nothing she can do, and she's gonna take it out on anybody who is, you know, gonna give her a reason. Sure. And you can totally tell that's where this rage is coming from, and it's coming from uh the helplessness of uh of a fear and grief uh of not being able to protect your baby.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

So at least from the s the the story standpoint, um uh I I I I like uh as you had mentioned, like the uh the differences that they gave that Judd Apatow um as a producer had kind of you know helped steer some of the direction of the stories, uh specifically around the families. Um but uh I I I do love Camille's uh family and and the dynamic that he has with them and and and everything they've got going on there. Um and how he's able to have like these these wonderful relationship conversations with his brother. Um, but at the same time, even even he knows you know, at some point he needs to start s you know straighten up and fly right. Um but he doesn't want to because he's he's you know fully inundated in the American culture.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

Um well and it's yeah, I mean, but if you think about it, you're always more comfortable talking to your siblings about things that you're not doing that your parents expect you to be doing.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

But at the at the same time, the the the the last scene that we see with his his parents uh is he is literally leaving uh to go to New York. He is uh decided to go take his his you know comedy to that next level and really try to break it out. And again, uh they're upset with him for for you know uh dating a white a white girl. His father's the one who gets out of the car, his mother won't even look at him. He's like, you know, I'm I'm so happy that uh that uh uh that for the time you were my son.

unknown 16:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

What was the lie? It was something to the effect that like you know it was it was great to have had you as a son.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

You were a great son. It's good to have you as one.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Yeah, uh your your mother made this for you. Um, you know, it's it's uh it's your favorite. It's your favorite. Uh but you know, she's she's she's really upset. She's not gonna look at you, you know.

SPEAKER_00 17:16

Right. It was like I will never see you again. Yeah. It's nice seeing you goodbye forever. Texas when you get in. Because no matter how angry you are as a parent, you're still a parent. And that's one of the things that I think you have this great love story is what this is, right? It's a rom com. It's a different kind of rom com. But it's a rom com. And what I loved about this is this added uh uh what it is to be a parent uh into it and and how that trumps everything. Uh and uh you look at uh through Emily's parents and uh what they're going through in their relationship and how they deal with uh Emily's illness and how it kind of brings them together when they're not really together uh at that point. And uh and then you look at his family and how um they are united-ish in an affront. But they um and and one of the things that I do really love is that he goes back in and he says, I'm not I'm I'm not gonna accept you kicking me out of the family. Because this isn't the first instance in which a family member in his extended family hasn't been uh kicked out for for leaving uh yes, for uh leaving uh what is traditional, traditionally accepted in their family. Uh and uh so yeah, the fact that he's like, I I reject your rejection. And so there.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

It must be a unanimous vote and I have a vote.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

And I think sometimes that's what uh is needed for a family to not uh to to not step away. And then a lot of the like it, like I said, a lot of the parent moments where uh Holly Hunter makes these calls uh about what she thinks is the best uh medical care for her daughter. And Ray Romano and all his notes.

unknown 19:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:07

About all the different things.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

My God, you can't spell half the words they give you.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

Uh and how they're always looking up and always doing research uh and and so forth. And the fact that she makes uh the call to move Emily and he uh he doesn't think it's the right thing for her to do, and neither does Ray Romano, and yet, you know, she when she gets called on it that it could be dangerous, uh Hallie Hunter's response is, you know, I'm always gonna be responsible. I'm we're her parents. That's what we do. No matter what, the responsibility is on us. So even if we make the wrong call, that's we that's we know that we live with that. That's what being a parent is, and it's terrifying.

SPEAKER_04 19:49

One of my favorite, I guess, awkward moments was when Ray Romano and Holly Hunter's character come back to the apartment for the first time with him. Um just everything that happened I thought was so I I I guess I was watching kind of going, what's gonna happen? Oh yeah. What's where are we going with those? And the scene just keeps going.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

I almost you know I almost to a degree hope that that the there's a a a sign of honesty in the fact that he goes and excuses his himself real quick to hide all of her drug paraphernalia. Uh yes.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

Like I'm just gonna go straighten up her room. Yeah. And even like we're watching it, and John's like, what a good guy.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

Yeah. Like what I mean, like, because that that yeah, that's not something you've been. And like he's sure. That's a that's a good boyfriend who's not actually a boyfriend.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

Yeah. As the viewer, you kind of at least identify with his position, and you just feel like I need to get out of this room. Like, I don't want to be here right now. This is so uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

And that he stays for any length of time is to me very impressive. Yep. Uh and uh, but then uh Ray Mormon's like, oh, this book. I gave her this book. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

No, I gave her that book.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

No, I gave her the book. I gave her things to read the inscription. Well, that doesn't prove anything.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

They go back and forth. And then I uh found out later that the the book in question is actually uh the director's mother wrote that book. That's his mother's book. Yeah. I really like the um the the chemistry uh between uh the two leads. I I think uh part of that obviously is like the dialogue is just brilliant. Yeah. Um, and I know uh there are things that about Emily's character, considering she spends so much of it unconscious, right? That you kind of fall in love with her as an audience member. And like he falls in love with it, you fall in love with her because she's just adorable. And the beginning before she ends up in a cola. uh you it's so important for the audience I think to connect and to just find her amazing that while she's missing you feel that intense uh kind of concern that everybody else is and caring for her. Uh and uh she she has these great moments like where she gets under the sheet to get dressed and it's like we just had we were just I saw you naked a minute ago, but we were in the throes of passion. It's different.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

I'm not I'm not sure she had some quirkiness to it.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Yeah. And it is such a beautiful film. It really is.

SPEAKER_04 22:34

We're gonna take a few more minutes to uh fill our glass with uh the the coma shot which which I have lovingly uh likened to a uh a banana runt that is an alcoholic if you like sugar and liquor form yeah I think it's a diabetic coma yep uh because I'm about to go into diabetic shock again again what for second action oh there you go oh good point get ready to imbibe more after this hey dear listener this is Michael with imbibe cinema and the Blue Whiskey Independent Film Festival did you know that imbibe cinema isn't just a podcast we've also got a variety of articles and reviews available to read on our website plus a streaming membership that gives you access to a new batch of independent films every month. Become an imbibe cinema member today at watch.imbibecinema.com That's watch.imbibesinema dot com thanks for supporting and imbibing the various content we offer now back to the show you're listening to imbibecinum Jonathan C.

SPEAKER_02 23:44

Leggett and I'm along here with Michael Trisha Legge and uh we are discussing the big sick uh enjoying this podcast uh rate andor leave us a review or help our show reach that larger audience uh before the break uh we actually did a lot of discussion on on story that this was written uh by Kumille uh and uh his wife Emily uh v. Jordan uh this is their love story obviously some of the the items that were changed to protect the innocent.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Right but he uh his character's name is his name yes and her character's name is changed from Gordon to Gardner and we've already established that uh uh some of what uh the story tells us in the film didn't actually happen with them but her illness did. John had said very beginning of the podcast how how incredible this film was and how it was one of his favorites and we'd seen it before uh thinking to uh put it on the podcast and so we had to watch it again and I kicked myself for not taking notes. I was like oh this is a movie I wanted to take notes during because there's some movies I think I want to take notes more than others and it's uh this this is such it's like one of my favorites I mean just such a beautiful beautiful movie and I'm just so lucky that I got to see it. It was so good.

SPEAKER_04 25:03

This film uh from like an editing standpoint it's very choppy in a really good way you know um you don't you almost kind of don't know when we're we're going to cut to the next thing we kind of jump around there's like there's like a feel to to each scene to each beat to each um each character interaction and so it's just it's interesting the some of the how sometimes it'll move quite quickly through things and sometimes we'll hang into a scene much longer than than most almost it's like we lean into the the awkwardness.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

Yeah yeah right because uh when you're having a good time uh when when they're clicking in there's uh the romance and when we see uh his career moving forward it's all fast paced because right when things are happy when things are going well everything kind of flies by yeah and then when when something goes wrong then it's like time stops. Yeah everything is just stand still and then the most uncomfortable thing is it's not moving forward.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Yeah that I didn't think about that but that is that is awesome.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

Yeah the the the awkward moments specifically when he is in the hospital with her parents and they know that they're not an item anymore that that you know and why is he still there? The the oh yeah just the belated pauses that they can do.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

Well and Halle Hunter cuts him to the quick real yeah real fast right off the bat it's like I don't say why are you here? Why are you you hurt her why are you here? Go away I will kill you pretty much she's vicious. Yeah well she's a mother right she's protective uh and I love how Ray Romano is because there's always that good cop bad cop in a parent relationship right where there's the one parent who's like I need to see three forms of ID and I will have nobody will know where the body is if you screw this up and there's the other parent who was like hey nice to meet you why don't you come in I'll have a drink can I get you anything yeah he could he could sit with us you want you want to come sit and eat your lunch with us?

SPEAKER_02 27:12

So great.

SPEAKER_00 27:13

It's a free country you can sit wherever we the actor who played his father he reached out directly yeah a new bum uh to him to ask him to be in the film and I believe he's the only other uh actor that is Pakistani everybody else is Indian that plays part of his family.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

Uh so fun fact he was amazing in Silverlining's playbook um oh my god yeah you look at his IMDB page and there's just too much to name oh yeah he's he he's a busy man so funny though oh yeah it's just it's almost like uh it's the dry delivery is a little bit of Balaban that I think of yes it's just like oh my god you're adorable and you do so little to make that happen.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

And he plays along too which I think is so great like the I mean like the the first time we see his mother bring in a woman you know who just dropped by and he's like uh bet you ten seconds drop the words drop by are gonna happen. They all count down as family. Yeah they all like agree ten, nine, eight and they just like jump into it but immediately the dad's like oh yeah sure I I agree let's see yeah sure you told me she wasn't gonna have any I don't know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Yeah it's uh great yeah no he's always with the comedy yeah he's with the comedy mom I made that one especially for you pass the salt um I think when your family's not speaking to you cue cards. Yep that's the way to go you really can't go wrong with cue cards.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Oh okay so the actress that played Emily Zoe Zoe is on she evidently um uh inadvertently fell asleep on a few of the coma scenes and uh would ruin a take by waking up in the middle of the shot.

SPEAKER_04 29:05

Oh that's funny I did not know that so I mean you feel like you there's a safe space if you get that comfortable I mean if you're lying in a bed and pretending to be asleep you know on a set there are these very long uh how many takes and you could be totally into it in the first five takes if you're doing a new setup I mean you and I'm assuming you know being a a a smaller film like this they might just stay there instead of okay you know but you go and we'll have a stand in. Oh yeah right for lighting. So you know what I'm comfy I'll just stay here.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Yeah but she is she is so good in this film and she is just fabulous. I love all the quirks I like it's just uh it's a it's a really nice to see uh a a rom-com with a leading lady that is quirky that is fun and it she just seems very genuine it's not like she's you know uh the standard of you know I have to look beautiful in all these shots um at all she's real so engaging just just watching watching her on screen right because there's so much going on. Well and uh they had said we'd just we watched an interview with uh Emily Ryan the real Emily the real Emily the uh the co-writer of the script and uh uh person who actually was being sick uh she uh said it was like you know they saw lots of actresses and uh it was Zoe from the get-go that they knew that uh it was gonna be her and uh I also heard that uh Zoe watched a lot of footage of Emily before uh you know uh hand to kind of get the idea of the feel of the character uh from you know the real gal yeah that's wow that's interesting I I really want to encounter the first film uh where where we have like you know a writer director producer or something say you know like no they were actually our last choice right they just wouldn't share that no I see but I wanna I wanna I want to hear it.

SPEAKER_04 31:16

No no no we we hated every actress or we we we loved every actress before this person none of them were they were all busy so we were just like just trying to shave a few million off of uh Colin Colin Colin Farrell's prize tag yes kiss kiss bang oh I love that movie Bear oh yeah we gotta poke the bear my god my god what have we thought of the thing to notice about this movie is that um the majority uh uh an overwhelming majority of the people um the critics that reviewed this film uh really liked it because it hasn't it has a 98% on ron too which is not easy okay it's very hard and so um very difficult to find people who didn't like this film however at the Sacramento News and Review who I have mentioned I believe before um they say Chicago Raider they say we have a turf war with Chicago Raider except for you know mentioned this movie takes place in Chicago. Yeah we did not talk about that yeah I mean it's it's not like a huge part of the it doesn't no it doesn't showcase Chicago at all just so happens to be there yeah yeah but I want to know which hospital is ranked 17th let's not go to that hospital. John's gonna look it up so uh Sacramento News and Review says at 119 minutes long it may be too much of a good thing. I have rarely been so aggravated by such a funny and heartwarming film. It's a craft how too much of a good thing right I've frustrated been aggravated with like goodness like right I've been ag I'm so aggravated that this movie is so good. So I hate it Okay here's here's another one from the New Yorker The Big Sick suffers from an excess of pleasantness and this very pleasantness thins out its substance blands out its tone weakens its comedy Okay I'm gonna use the rule of threes on this one is gonna be so good.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

I just love how all of these critics have been more like I'm upset with how good it was like I can't even say that it was bad because it was so good.

SPEAKER_04 33:36

Okay uh so this last one is from the National Review There are some sweet early scenes establishing the character's rapport but Gordon and Nanjani are so enamored of the stand-up comedy world that it takes nearly 40 minutes for an actual conflict to be brought up you have to establish and actually make any sort of unlike relationship and and and put that on the line and the relationship is already conflicted in the beginning yeah there's there's so many things going on that are conflicting in the beginning you see early on uh the the problems that um are inevitably wrong with this with his family life um the fact that the two of them don't want to be in a relationship together sometimes the two day rule they don't want to be in a relationship not necessarily in a relationship together that clearly is the the the issue they want to be in a relationship together but they don't want to be in a relationship.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

Splay's personality says this isn't a bad movie per se but it is an extremely frustrating one that left me longing for the days when rom-coms weren't structured like the return of the king wow how many endings did this person find there was not nearly enough running like what's the comparison I don't understand there there weren't 15 endings and I love Return of the King so this person could go suck on that but nobody's finger got bit off um nobody nobody fell into a giant volcano right yeah um we greatly appreciate all of our listeners for choosing this podcast uh despite our drunken ramblings and uh especially for supporting independent films uh so uh keep an ear out for our next episode and to uh check out our show notes or to just drop us a note please visit us at imbibesinema.com once again I'm Jonathan C. Leggett and thanks for imbibing with us. Cheers