Jonathan C. Legat: 0:00

This is probably a first, this is a first, I've been biding my time.

Michael Noens: 0:05

Ladies and gentlemen, Jonathan C Legat still has a full glass.

Tricia Legat: 0:09

Yeah, and we're starting. It's a remarkable show of restraint and we applaud you.

Michael Noens: 0:14

And technical difficulties.

Jonathan C. Legat: 0:16

That's probably it. Yeah, there we go. Greetings and or salutations, and welcome to Imbibe Cinema. The Imbibe Cinema podcast is brought to you by the Blue Whiskey Independent Film Festival, otherwise known as BWIF. I'm Jonathan C Leggett, along with my co-hosts Trisha Leggett, as well as producer Michael Knowles. In this episode, we're going to be discussing the adorable YouTube sensation, marcel the Shell, with the shoes on.

Michael Noens: 1:01

With the shoes. On With the shoes, on With the shoes on. With the shoes on. With these shoes, let's add more of those.

Jonathan C. Legat: 1:07

Yes, the cocktail we are imbibing is something called the 60-Minute Investigation, which has scotch lemon, honey, water and bitters and Trish. Would you like to explain what the 60-Minute Investigation is? Oh, yes.

Tricia Legat: 1:22

So there are two sc Scotches involved in this. There's the Scotch whiskey blend and then the fancy, or you know.

Jonathan C. Legat: 1:29

Islay, islay one, okay.

Tricia Legat: 1:31

So any whozles here at this podcast we try to pair a drink that is kind of a nod to the film. We have had several really fun drinks, oh yeah, over the time, usually with really cool unheard of ingredients that we have to track down and never use again. So we have this wonderful bar full of very exotic liqueurs that we don't use, and I could not afford to go out there for more. So I was trying to find a recipe that would go well with the film and also that was a hard thing to do to begin with. See, audience, our story takes us down the rabbit hole of the web, and in that there is no Marcel the Shell themed cocktail. There is no wholesome, simple things in life bring profound moments to you Themed alcohol.

Jonathan C. Legat: 2:27

I had posited the idea of using Clamato, which is clam and tomato juice, but Tricia was against that vehemently. Yes on principle.

Tricia Legat: 2:36

So here's the thing as I'm looking through things, I find nothing. And then I start getting desperate, I'm starting making associations. There was one drink called Sea Legs and I thought, well, sea shell legs go in shoes. Yes, I'm going down the rabbit hole. And then it got to be like really strained, like there was a point where, like, there was a drink called the White Lady and I was like, well, marcel is voiced by a white lady, we could go here. But then I was like.

Jonathan C. Legat: 3:15

No, I feel like we're stretching here, that's how I thought.

Tricia Legat: 3:18

So I was like, nope, must be a center. So at some point I went oh, what about 60 minutes? Because it is prominently featured in the film. Absolutely, there's got to be a 60 minute.

Michael Noens: 3:28

Isn't there a drink called the Leslie Stahl?

Tricia Legat: 3:31

I challenge you cocktail makers Right. Like I would, you would think, and so I go down that and I keep rephrasing it like it's themed after this or you know whatever. And finally, Google does the strangestest thing. Google spoke to me on a spiritual, higher plane because I can't speak to tricia. It was probably ai okay, so here's what google said to me. It said you are searching for something that doesn't exist, but if you would like to create it, here's this.

Tricia Legat: 4:00

Here's a good suggestion and, and then it says it's the 60-minute investigation, is what it would call it, and then it has the ingredients that we have today. So Google created the drink out of frustration, because I couldn't stop searching and it was like I can't handle this anymore. It said listen white lady, listen white lady, let me just create you a cocktail so you can shut the fuck up, and that is how we have the 60-minute investigation.

Tricia Legat: 4:35

Unofficially brought to you by Google, so let that be a lesson to you. Sometimes God speaks through Google.

Jonathan C. Legat: 4:45

That is the creepiest statement I think I've heard yet uh the recipe with a capital g oh my google.

Jonathan C. Legat: 4:52

The recipe, as well as uh pictures, are available on our website, mbibesinemacom. In addition to this podcast, we also offer a variety of short and feature-length independent films that you can enjoy for free, but when you become an imbibe cinema member, you get access to monthly limited releases. To learn more and begin your membership, visit imbibecinemacom or download the imbibe cinema mobile app, available on the app store and the googles of play and, in case you forgot, this episode is unofficially brought to you by google see how many times we can bring google into the conversation it will bring itself.

Jonathan C. Legat: 5:30

What are you doing, dave?

Michael Noens: 5:31

you know, the film features youtube, so yeah, that's right, which is owned by the google we've come full shell I like it, that was a proud of that one Excellent dad joke. So through my Google research. Now, is this Google or is this Wikipedia?

Jonathan C. Legat: 5:52

It was actually Bing, so she Binged it.

Tricia Legat: 5:57

She Binged it hard. Oh no, I'm from China, I just Googled it a little shit okay, let's all sober up quickly. And where were we?

Tricia Legat: 6:17

oh yes, so in my searches because I, when watching the film, one of the things that came to mind was how, in the story, marcel becomes famous through YouTube and then he uses that to try to get answers to his own questions. Right To crowdsource his own problems, right? However it doesn't. It goes awry. Own problems, right? Um, however it doesn't. It goes awry and made me wonder did this film actually originate as a youtube sensation? And in fact, it did in 2010? Uh, because the film came out. What 21?

Jonathan C. Legat: 6:58

uh, yes, 2021 uh.

Tricia Legat: 7:01

So when the short came out it was three minutes or four minutes, something like that, and it's cute. Um, I, you know, I I enjoyed it. Uh, it's a nice little um bonus feature. If you've just watched the uh full length feature. There are things that are in that short that made it into the movie. Um, and what I was also interested in was wondering like how, like all the origin of the story, like how did this come to be a full length feature? And I and I think everything out in such incredible detail, so much so that they were like like measuring how far he could move throughout a scene, and then they would like block and come up with the whole scene and then they would act it out and have like little sketches or whatnot video done for the that motion crew. So when they filmed it they would know, but then at the same time they were improvising. It was very interesting how they managed to balance that and the fact that a whole day of filming and like we're talking like a really great day Ten seconds of film.

Michael Noens: 8:19

Oh yeah, that makes sense. I mean it's, it's so time consuming Correct.

Tricia Legat: 8:25

Yeah, I couldn't get over that. I mean, it's so time consuming, Correct? Yeah, I couldn't get over that.

Jonathan C. Legat: 8:29

I'm like seven years that's an impressive amount of time, which again only makes actually any of it more impressive if they used any sort of natural looking light, because there's no way you could do that and maintain the daylight, right yeah.

Michael Noens: 8:47

Yeah, you'd have to completely shut out all light and everything would need to be controlled. Yeah, very impressive and, to the point of you know, painstakingly planning it all out, doing that in a documentary format, doing that in a documentary format I mean we've all worked on projects where you've rehearsed something quite a bit and it's becoming it almost feels too rehearsed, and so it's like now forget about what you already know and just go, and it's almost like a fun one you want to, you want to try something fun.

Michael Noens: 9:27

You, you go ahead, you do you yeah, so, um, that's pretty cool because I think that that's also what leads to that documentary feel is because there is a little something rough around the edges about it yeah, from you know just uh like a curb your enthusiasm level.

Jonathan C. Legat: 9:42

You know scenario where um I wonder how much of it was just them with a headset.

Jonathan C. Legat: 9:44

You know, just like a curb your enthusiasm level, you know scenario where I wonder how much of it was just them with a headset, you know kind of having conversations and being like, all right, you know it's a new day and I'm asking you, you know what you're doing, or you know and whatnot, and allowing that part of the improv to kind of inform those kind of quick banters and back and forth where, like you know, she says something, he banters, and back and forth where, like you know, she says something, he says something you know about, you know, okay, well, how's that?

Jonathan C. Legat: 10:10

And then she immediately pops back with something and again somebody who is that kind of an improviser can can sit there and do those kinds of scenarios and from a documentary standpoint, you get enough of those, you know small qu, small quips and back and forth, and you could start to, you know, just have a narrative, a documentary-esque thing, just out of clips of those, and then you know you find where you either need to fill some gaps from a narrative standpoint or whatnot and be like, all right, now we're going to do the same thing, except this has just happened. Let's have that inform how this is going to go. And you know, I I feel that that at least once you've got all the language, you've got the narrative, you've got all the the I don't want to call it scripted at that point, but you would know all the words you're trying to to to go through then it's just about getting the stop motion to mirror the the scene.

Michael Noens: 11:04

Right, yeah, yeah, it's got to just fit within what has been planned. Yeah.

Tricia Legat: 11:09

Well, and the story. So Dean had an interview that said I think it was a teacher or somebody that told him be careful, the stories you tell. They tend to come true, like be careful, what you put out into the ethos, sure Right, it manifests. Stories you tell, they tend to come true, like, be careful, what you put down to the ethos, sure right, it manifests. Uh, dean had said how he wanted to make this documentary, this mockumentary a very serious documentary.

Tricia Legat: 11:34

He wanted to take the rules of documentary how you see documentary and commit to that the whole time right, I mean to to the level where he doesn't interfere.

Jonathan C. Legat: 11:43

Right when it's like help me. You could just do this.

Michael Noens: 11:46

No, I'm not going to interfere because I'm. You know, then I'm part of the documentary Right and that's not my role.

Tricia Legat: 11:55

And then Marcel calls him out on it. It's like if you don't participate then you're not really in the game. There's so many lines in this movie where, when they happen, you're like oh, that's good. My favorite is they say my head is too big for my body. And I say, as opposed to what? Yeah, what people sometimes forget is how powerful just giving a little snippet of something and letting the audience fill in the blank.

Michael Noens: 12:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like creating the right environment for that and really I mean you have to be so into the story you have to already have the hook, I think, and then you'll go along with the quotes. I wrote a couple of them down. Oh good, but one of the ones that I really liked and, if I remember correctly, this is like one of those moments where it's its own little section. Marcel is talking to Dean and turns around and says guess why I smile a lot?

Michael Noens: 12:55

Because it's worth it. And that was the whole scene. It's such a simple little sentence, and it's. If you've gotten into the movie this far, I challenge anyone to not smile at that moment. How can you not? Yeah, and I think that that's why, in a nutshell, why I love this movie so much.

Jonathan C. Legat: 13:16

Why in a nutshell, not in a seashell? Why you like this movie.

Michael Noens: 13:20

In a seashell why I love this movie. It's a movie that, if you're in a bad place, you could put this movie on and you'll feel better by the end of it.

Tricia Legat: 13:33

At some point we should just talk about, like what primary message, what's the first message of this film that resonates with you?

Jonathan C. Legat: 13:44

I know for me and it would be just the childlike naivete of this character the sheer fact that Marcel's worldview is not tainted by everything that we as adults have to deal with, and so the honesty of the statements and the glee in just little nothings, um, uh is, is, I think, what really helps drive what Michael was saying about the sheer fact that, like, if you're having a bad day, sure, this, this film, has a lot of lows, but the highs that are in it, um, are only that much more accentuated because of the lows, and and you get to almost feel childlike while watching this, yeah, um, and it brings you back to a joyous time of that simplicity where everything made so much more sense and how big the world is and the way they address that in the kind of like the cosmos, the universe, how small we are in that.

Tricia Legat: 14:57

And then that scene on the windowsill and the wind just comes in through the window, just right, and it goes right through the shell and it makes the noise and he's like the noise wouldn't exist if I wasn't there in that moment and how. How much in this world is out of your control, how much of this world is so big and in existence and all in time and space, and yet you can still like bring something new and unique and beautiful into this world just by being in it.

Jonathan C. Legat: 15:29

Just by existing Just so beautiful.

Tricia Legat: 15:33

It's all a shell with a googly eye. It's so beautiful.

Jonathan C. Legat: 15:38

And shoes.

Tricia Legat: 15:39

And shoes.

Jonathan C. Legat: 15:40

We're going to take a few moments to fill our glasses and get ready to imbibe. More after this Woohoo, more after this Woohoo. The Blue Whiskey Independent Film Festival exhibits short and feature-length motion pictures that utilize story elements in a new and exciting way. Our official selections are a carefully assembled blend of imaginative, sophisticated and full-bodied stories. This is what our name represents BWIF. Audiences expect to experience character-driven, independent cinema that is fueled by the filmmakers' passion for the art of visual storytelling. Filmmakers can expect an intimate festival experience where their personal story is valued as much as the one projected on the big screen. I'm Jonathan Sealegget and I'm here along with.

Tricia Legat: 16:44

Trisha Leggett and Michael.

Jonathan C. Legat: 16:46

Nowens and we are discussing Marcel the Cell. Sally sells Marcel the Shell.

Tricia Legat: 16:55

It's a bad business model.

Jonathan C. Legat: 16:56

It is. She could just pick him up, marcel the Shell with shoes, on Enjoying this podcast. Please subscribe or follow us on all of your favorite podcast providers to get new episodes as soon as we release them. Rate and or leave us a review to help the show reach a larger audience. And you can also follow imbibe cinema on facebook, instagram and the threads. Also, you can send us a text uh look for the link uh in our show notes and you can send us a comment or question and we'll try to make some time to address those questions, comments or concerns.

Michael Noens: 17:33

Don't be shy. Yes, please Reach out.

Jonathan C. Legat: 17:36

My suggestion would be if you need to text Tricia, text him, vibe, and we will force her to answer. We'll answer collectively.

Tricia Legat: 17:47

As.

Michael Noens: 17:47

Tricia's assistants.

Tricia Legat: 17:49

We speak for the collective. Oh dear.

Jonathan C. Legat: 17:52

All right. So we did want to discuss the perspectives from this and how we were discussing kind of the idea of how small one feels on the blue marble and the perspective of that alone. But you know what are your additional thoughts on the subject, I guess?

Michael Noens: 18:14

I mean for me. It changed my perspective of nature, like when Marcel is reunited. I think the second time watching it I was really taking more notice of all the different kinds of creatures.

Jonathan C. Legat: 18:32

I guess yes, oh yeah, pretzels Peanuts.

Michael Noens: 18:36

The ghost.

Jonathan C. Legat: 18:37

Ghost.

Tricia Legat: 18:37

The weird ghost. Yeah, the weird ghost was there and then it's like wow, I really was limited in my whole like Chex mix, Well, yeah. But, also it was like oh, how terrible am I to limit my thought of what's sentient in this world, because I'm like I draw the line at pretzels and the ghost.

Michael Noens: 19:03

But to me, I guess what.

Jonathan C. Legat: 19:03

I realized when I was noticing all of these things.

Michael Noens: 19:05

they're all things that were valued and discarded, and then they have a life of their own it seems so in other words- Because it's like the peanuts even they're like cracked open but never eaten, never you know, just discarded, and so it's like what happens to them then? Well, apparently they live on a life of their own.

Jonathan C. Legat: 19:19

Where the?

Tricia Legat: 19:19

lost things go. So what we're saying is right now.

Jonathan C. Legat: 19:22

In each of our vehicles there is an entire family of McDonald's fries that have fallen in between the cracks and are actually living sentient lives in our vehicles.

Tricia Legat: 19:34

I mean, knowing what they put into those French fries, are we surprised?

Jonathan C. Legat: 19:38

Okay, you are now envisioning yourself as a shell. You are in the perspective of something that is tiny. The honey is the thing that made me giggle more than anything else, oh yeah, climbing the walls. Yeah that Marcel continues to go, step in honey to go, you know, walk up or down walls and at the same time there's points where it's like, okay, you have gotten yourself into said sink, You're not near the honey anymore. How do you get out of the sink?

Michael Noens: 20:10

right, but there's a lot of eventually figures it out.

Tricia Legat: 20:14

I mean, there's a lot of problem solving and uh interesting engineering like they don't talk about the honey at all, and I love that it's just gonna be happening during other dialogue and you'll figure it out you'll figure out why

Jonathan C. Legat: 20:28

yeah yeah, that's this little feat all over the walls right.

Tricia Legat: 20:32

I do love the concept of the whole like discarded things. I like that and that they find their way. I read recently something about when you die, you're not leaving, you're actually returning to the universe as a whole, like this is where you stepped away and then you. It was very beautiful when I read it.

Michael Noens: 20:52

It's a different perspective there are certain scenes in this that if you were to watch them on their own, you would probably find them laughably absurd but like when you get pulled into the movie.

Michael Noens: 21:04

It's one of those where it's funny and sad at the same time, and like one that comes to mind is I think it's right after Marcel is telling the story of how he lost everybody and starts to cry into the tissue and is like you know, I'm just gonna, you know, need a minute or something like that, you know, and then goes in there and then blows his nose and then steps out. I mean it is adorable and funny and heartbreaking yes, all at the same time yeah and it's so.

Michael Noens: 21:45

It's such a simple sequence and has so many, so many emotions to it.

Tricia Legat: 21:51

I think the interview with um 60 minutes oh, with leslie yeah, with leslie stall and how she asks how long has it been oh and he's like, oh, I don't, I don't know, seasons have passed, the flowers have come into bloom.

Tricia Legat: 22:03

he's like, oh, I don't know, Seasons have passed, Flowers have come into bloom and are gone, and I just I don't know how to measure the time only that the aching has gotten bigger, like the hole in my heart. And it's this beautiful sentiment about how, like you know, when you're heartbroken, time goes forever right. And also what is time to a show. And then she just quickly cuts over to the filmmaker Dean and she goes do you know how long he has? Yeah, two years.

Tricia Legat: 22:28

And then Marcel, without missing a beat, is like oh, that's good to know.

Jonathan C. Legat: 22:33

Yeah, so adorably. Matter of fact, and, like I said, the childlike naivete, yes, childlike naivete, yes, that that just you're. You're immediately sucked into the world and you, you, enjoy the journey that you are taking but also I think, like there's that whole layer of real life.

Tricia Legat: 22:52

When there is tragedy, when there is heartbreak or grief, there is humor. There always is, and that's what makes it painful. In ways it's what alleviates the pain for those going through it. It keeps them from sinking to a point where they can't go forward. You know, humor can get you through it. But then also when you watch somebody finding the funny or the silly in a moment that is heartbreaking to keep themselves, then it's heartbreaking to watch, even but, when people are like drama, drama, drama with no humor, then it's like whatever, right, yeah, you're not as emotionally invested, I don't know Right yeah, they're just emoting.

Tricia Legat: 23:32

Or just Batman-ing out. Right, yeah, batman. Martha.

Jonathan C. Legat: 23:38

Why did you say that name?

Tricia Legat: 23:40

Don't we always reference Star Wars? Have we gotten there yet?

Jonathan C. Legat: 23:44

You just did Star Wars versus Star Trek.

Michael Noens: 23:48

Well, there you go. We could do that. We could do a bonus episode.

Tricia Legat: 23:52

We should bring like two guests, one of them a Star Trek fan, one of them a Star.

Michael Noens: 23:56

Wars fan 100% and one has to really dislike the other. I love this plan Because I would just enjoy the other. I love this plan Because I would just enjoy the conversation, me too.

Jonathan C. Legat: 24:07

And then I think it would be very important we would add flavor text and poke the bear and make them fight each other to the death.

Tricia Legat: 24:14

But I really think we should have them dress up as their favorite character and make it like no, it's a podcast, I know, but it's essential, oh well then that episode we're filming, that episode we're filming.

Jonathan C. Legat: 24:24

Yeah I saw one of the quotes. That is an imdb and it's uh. Dean says do you feel angry? And marcel says, um, I feel angry that we didn't have a better goodbye. And then dean asks who would you say goodbye to? And then Marcel just goes into this adorable little thing where it's. I'd like to say goodbye to my neighbors, the Costas. Goodbye, the Costas. Even though we had a language barrier, you were my neighbors. Yeah, you always liked to garden Like that is the sell. Goodbye, anka. Your sense of timing is one of the worst. Goodbye, mrs Kim. The time that you ate a pepper flake and it made you fly into the wall was one of the funniest yet most serious accidents any of us has ever witnessed, and you bore it with great grace and bravery. Goodbye, brad. Thank you so much for rolling that marble into my bread room.

Tricia Legat: 25:25

I still keep it to this day well, and it's so, it's, it's, it's just beautiful because, like you, can love things and miss things, yes, and not really have liked them, correct, right right, absolutely.

Michael Noens: 25:38

I mean, I think of like, uh, like, uh, uh, kelso in scrubs when he's talking about his wife who had passed away and he was like you know. She snored horribly. It drove him insane, but he couldn't sleep without that snore and you're like, oh, heartbreak. But you know it makes sense. You miss the things that even annoyed you.

Jonathan C. Legat: 25:59

They became part of your life.

Michael Noens: 26:01

Right See warm feelings, and it's not just the alcohol. Though annoyed you, they became part of your life Right. Yeah, see, warm feelings, and it's not just the alcohol. Though that helped it did Sure, it did help Should you want me to poke the bear.

Tricia Legat: 26:16

Yes, oh, yeah.

Michael Noens: 26:18

Really what Poke the Bear is about? Is about showing the other side, so we Love Cinema.

Tricia Legat: 26:25

We love to complain about cinema.

Michael Noens: 26:27

We Love Cinema says, a further proof that YouTube characters seldom translate into feature-length efforts.

Tricia Legat: 26:35

They didn't watch the movie.

Jonathan C. Legat: 26:39

Yeah, I guess, so I mean, this is one of those instances where, especially like, I just don't get what what they're trying to establish, because, um, I mean, I know that they have not yet made a dr horrible's musical blog feature film, but at the same time, you still hold out hope, and you well okay that should be off the record, never mind which bump is mark that for later.

Tricia Legat: 27:04

Wait off the record well, no, it's like we're recording. Oh fine, I was just gonna say baby jesus I was just gonna say, like superman had um alan tudyk and nathan fillion in it, and then I wonder if, like gunn, adopted them after they, they forcibly separated from Whedon.

Jonathan C. Legat: 27:22

You probably go back to like year one podcasts and there's at least got to be a moment where I'm sitting there going. Joss Whedon was my, you know, is my master. Yep, because, you know, at that time he was doing things that were, you know, amazing, and we had not yet found out that he was well less.

Tricia Legat: 27:43

No, I grew up. Bill Cosby was one of my TV dance.

Michael Noens: 27:47

Yeah.

Tricia Legat: 27:47

There's a heartbreak there.

Michael Noens: 27:49

Yeah, I know this is very much off topic, but the thing with this, well, maybe not really.

Tricia Legat: 27:56

I guess, oh really, it's like the elastic claws in the constitution. You go, you stretch it out.

Michael Noens: 28:03

Finding positives in the negative.

Jonathan C. Legat: 28:05

Yeah, there you go.

Michael Noens: 28:06

You know movies that are hard to look at the same way, like the. Ref like shows like the Cosby Show. There are several people on that show that did amazing work. Why should you trash an entire piece of art? When it's a collaborative piece of art.

Tricia Legat: 28:27

Correct.

Michael Noens: 28:28

When one person is spoiling it. Yeah, you can dislike that person, yep, but you can still appreciate everything that everybody else did. We can still appreciate. You know Judy Davis and Dennis Leary and all these people in the Ref. You know judy davis and dennis leary and all these people in the ref. You know like they did amazing work don't forget legend glennis johns yes correct.

Tricia Legat: 28:51

Yes, national treasure who has so many great lines in multiple movies oh yeah, beyond mary poppins she is the original send in the clowns.

Michael Noens: 28:59

She is yes, oh yes, and oh, yes, and I mean I think this holiday season we should definitely be doing. While you Were Sleeping oh, elsie, you okay.

Tricia Legat: 29:10

How's your heart, elsie? You're right, right, right, yeah, you okay.

Jonathan C. Legat: 29:13

All right, I'm more than down with that. No, I, 1000% concur. It is the idea of you can not like the artist but still love the art.

Jonathan C. Legat: 29:25

When you are too comfortable separating the artist from the art, because part of art is the humanity the connection between people and the artist, and so yeah, Well, but so okay, there's a part of me that can 100% see where you're at, though, at the same time, I feel like, when it comes to like or any sort of art that you are enjoying, there is a personal experience in the sense that like as soon as it is created and that it is open to the public. If the public's opinion of that art is that it is a bean rather than a cloud, that it is now the bean, um, you know, the artist goes no, it's a cloud. And and chicago has already spoken um, it has no.

Tricia Legat: 30:16

Once you create something, it doesn't belong to you anymore. It belongs to everybody.

Jonathan C. Legat: 30:20

So you choose it belongs to everybody and to that degree it becomes one of the situations where those of us who grew up with Michael Jackson grew up with Bill Cosby. We are reflecting the Cosby show or the songs that we listen to in our youth, in our growing up, in the light of how we were at that time growing up in the light of how we were at that time. So it is more affected by us, the people who are enjoying the art.

Tricia Legat: 30:56

So finding out that they are less than we hoped doesn't diminish the fact of what that meant to us. There's a great song by AJR and I'm probably paraphrasing him, but it's something close to all my role. Models are in the news for the wrong reasons.

Michael Noens: 31:08

Yeah.

Tricia Legat: 31:10

And essentially the whole song is what does that say about me?

Jonathan C. Legat: 31:16

Right. Yes, All my role models are on TV for the wrong reasons and I will unravel if you rip away my best pieces.

Michael Noens: 31:26

Thank you, AJR.

Tricia Legat: 31:27

And when it comes out that they're terrible human beings, I'll be like, but I really love.

Michael Noens: 31:31

Ajr. World of Real says a cutesy animated film that plays like a short being overstretched. To me there was a lot to unpack throughout the whole film, personally so.

Jonathan C. Legat: 31:54

I don't understand this rotten score. I do understand what they are getting at in the sense that clearly this was a a four minute short that they opted to make into a feature, the.

Tricia Legat: 32:08

The story doesn't feel long, so it wasn't the original story in the short the short was a character it was a character being observed yeah, that was it. That wasn't, it was, there was no plot.

Jonathan C. Legat: 32:19

So to me, I, I, I is my defense of their statement, but at the same time dismantling of it.

Tricia Legat: 32:28

It's sad because it's like this is a beautiful movie and I know people who would not sit through it. They wouldn't get it.

Michael Noens: 32:35

Right.

Tricia Legat: 32:37

And to those people I want to say calm down, get a hold of yourself, smack, smack, smack.

Michael Noens: 32:42

Pull an airplane. Yes, I like it.

Tricia Legat: 32:44

It's the best movie ever made. No, but it is a cornerstone.

Michael Noens: 32:49

I don't know You've made the statement.

Tricia Legat: 32:52

No, it is just a cornerstone of my personality was made in watching the movie Airplane.

Michael Noens: 32:58

That is definitely true. So eventually, folks, we will have to do that film.

Jonathan C. Legat: 33:04

Oh yeah, we've got to find so many more microphones. We greatly appreciate all of our listeners for choosing this podcast supporting independent films and the Blue Whiskey Independent Film Festival Cheers. Thanks for watching.