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Greetings, Tandor Salutations, and welcome to Imbibe Cinema. I'm Jonathan C. Leggett, along with my co-host Michael Noins.

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Trisha Leggett.

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In this episode, we are going to be discussing Olivia Wilde's Book Smart, currently available for digital download while imbibing the horny schoolgirl.

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Imbibing her?

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Hey, you're the one that found the recipe. That's on you.

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It applied to the shell.

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That's really like this was vodka, but I can't even say horny schoolgirl.

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I was staying on topic. But speaking of, this drink is pretty and pink. Yes, it is. Oh my lord, is it pink?

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And it has a cherry.

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Yes, it is pinky pie pink. Yeah, it is.

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Or if it's Trisha's glass, she's got like 12 cherries.

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It's all cherry phones.

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Oh Jesus. The uh recipe can be found on our website, imbibedcinema.com. Uh the Imbibe Cinema podcast is brought to you by the Blue Whiskey Independent Film Festival, otherwise known as BWF. Our festival seeks independent character-driven films of all lengths, styles, and genres. To learn more, please visit us at Bwiff.com. That is BWIFF.com. So, BookSmart, this film was Amaze Balls. Um as soon as the credits were rolling, that was the only thought that went through my head was amazeballs. Um Olivia Wilde's directorial feature directorial debut was an absolute home run. Uh it's honestly one of the funniest films that I've seen in a long time, and it's incredibly witty and deep.

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Yeah.

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Um, and while this story focuses on two very focused young women and their realization that the more uh there is more to high school and life than being like the valedictorian or getting into the prestigious schools. What was even more impressive about this script is how its ability to break down character cliches, especially high school character cliches, and show all of the dimensions of each of the supporting cast. I was I was stunned.

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Yeah. I mean, it kind of brought me back to our first episode where we were so blown away by how you walked away from I'll always be my maybe with I remember all of these characters. Yes. I loved so many of the supporting roles in this where it's like my favorite characters were almost the supporting club. That's not that's not any like negative uh hit on on our two leads. No, it was just a well-rounded right.

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And nobody was nobody was easily dismissed because they're like, oh, you're this character, you're this stereotype, you're this cliche. Everybody was like, oh, I kind of what? And that that was amazing. And they're they're three-dimensional.

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Yeah. And they did they they specifically lead you to believe it's going to be that kind of a high school movie up front. They they give you all these characters, they put them in the cliche moments, and then all of a sudden the walls start coming down, and you start to understand more about each and every one of them, and and you start to get this human element that you're like, okay, I understood that you were the over-the-top theatrical you know director, but at the same time, it's like, oh, okay, I I didn't understand all these other elements that were going on in your life. Yeah, you know, uh triple A specifically is the character who, you know, all all the girls call her triple A because apparently she uh you know roadside assistants. And we we we do find out she still did actually give them blowjobs, but it was because she was being nice and trying to, you know, they they were actually broken down at the side of the road.

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Um like it still smacks the right after that, like that, uh, that that like pause of like, oh, okay, this is a very serious moment. And then she's just like, well, and I actually did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:07

You can't give you can't give me uh any kind any kind of kind of crap for that. I don't want to do that in my parents' house. I want to enjoy it. I want to enjoy it. It's very logical. Oh, yeah.

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It's very logical.

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But um, so we're starting off with talking about the story, uh the actual pot and whatnot. So let's start with Michael and his hook. Michael, how did you feel the hook went?

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Were you grabbed in the first uh in the first scene?

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Oh brother. I was able to see this movie before it actually hit theaters, which was a pretty cool experience. Um it was one of those um uh free screenings that I got an invite to, and it ended up being an evening that I was able to make it out to the theater, and um the theater was packed, and I ended up having to sit in the like the second row of the theater. And so I was like, well, I was half thinking, you know what, I'm just gonna go home because I'm probably not gonna enjoy this. I'm gonna have like a huge you know, crank in my neck. And I I do remember that day I started to feel like I was coming down with something, like there was that like lump in your throat, and I was like, I should just but for the duration of this movie from from the start, uh I completely forgot about that. I completely forgot about all of my my ailment for the day, and I didn't have uh like you know, like a crank in my neck or whatever afterwards. And I think it was it's an unspoken connection with everybody else in the theater, but with sometimes with comedies like this, you have a connection with total strangers who are sitting next to you, and this was a sold-out theater, every seat was filled.

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Okay, and so that would have been understanding.

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And I just went by myself, so the people on either side of me were total strangers. And um, there were moments where you know you're laughing so hard because obviously laughter is contagious, and we were laughing so hard, we you know, you'd turn and look at each other, and we'd be like, oh, I can't believe that just happened.

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Yeah, like you get a full sense of community.

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Right. Well, and it's like, you know, if you went to go see a movie with a good friend, you'd have that exchange. Instead, you were like, no, I'm just gonna turn to this total stranger and we're gonna have the shows. We're never gonna actually have a conversation, maybe. But we're gonna This moment is shared. Yeah, this moment is shared. And there's something cool and magical about that with going to theater.

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Well, and then um one of like my first time realizing the impact, the true impact of being in a large audience versus watching something by yourself, uh, was when I went to see Star Wars. Uh it was episode four for me to technical uh New Hope, and it was in the theaters, they brought it back, right? So I am young enough to have never seen it in the theaters originally. However, old enough to have seen it in the theaters when it was re-released, right? So there you are. And uh the thing was there was a point in the beginning of the movie where RTD2 falls over and the crowd just erupts. We all laugh. And I had seen this movie how many times growing up, and I was like, oh my god, this is funny. Why did I know this was funny? I I never paid attention to it, but all of a sudden this is really funny. And it's that that impact a group of people watching a movie have on each other, or things are contagious, things are shared. Where uh, you know, in in any kind of uh horror film, there's that gasp, that collective gasp, where you kind of scare each other. Yes. And that's I would have loved to see this movie with an audience, and I'm glad you got to. We laughed, but I think it'd be much different than any group of people.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

I I I was actually quite worried at a number of points that I laughed. I gaffawed or laughed so loud that the our children who are sleeping upstairs, I I was actually worried I was waking them up. Um I was laughing that hard.

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That's awesome. Yeah. Well, that's good because I uh because when I did take that into consideration afterwards when I was like, oh, I really want to do this movie, I think you guys are gonna love it, and then I'm like, wait, they might not think it's as funny. So I was worried about that. So I'm just gonna do that.

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Now I know this is called imbibe cinema and that that we drink during this, but uh uh you know, I'm about to tell another story and it really makes us sound like we're alcoholics. But um we could we've had a couple of parties responsibly. Imbibe responsibly. Uh one for you and one for whomever you're with. Um but we've we've had a couple like Ragers. No, we've had a couple of like regular parties uh where people can get you know a little bit loud, uh especially myself. Uh my volume tends to be a little on the uh excessive side. Um but our girls will sleep through everything. Like they just do not seem to be phased by by loud noises.

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I have no idea what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

Oh, I've had these rangers all by myself. Also sleep through them. You're welcome, genetically. But no, yeah, so that I I I'm a I'm a little jealous of that because I do I do feel that this would especially be a movie that just would be amazing to have seen with a group of friends or a community. Uh in fact, if you have not already seen it, um one, why are you listening to us? Because we make no sense. Uh but two, um uh do watch it or watch it again uh with as many people as you can find. Um this this is just an incredibly witty, incredibly intelligent, and incredibly well shot.

SPEAKER_04 9:24

At the very least, find a copy of it when your kids are graduating high school and watch it as a family. No, no. I'm sure it will date well. You're gonna be like, kids, this is what it was like when we were young.

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And then you can turn to your child and be like, oh, that's why you reacted so strangely with that stuffed animal.

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Oh awkward. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 9:48

But can I tell you because I mean, I know American Pie broke down some boundaries uh as far as self-service and how we don't talk about it, but it happens. And uh I'm glad to know that we can finally have uh the female perspective on that. And yeah, it's a little less horrifying because it's adorable. It's a panda. Who doesn't love panda panda? I mean, the one eye thing is weird.

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Yeah, what what happened to the one eye? Uh you just that happened that happened before, long before. My my my one of my favorite scenes uh in this, uh especially just from the the level of awkward and how hard I was laughing, uh, is specifically when uh Lisa Coudreau and Will Forte uh literally it's like towards the very end of the movie, and uh Lisa Coudreau just starts kissing the bear essentially to to to you know because she's taking it to college, or no, not to college, she's taking it to Africa with her. Uh and she's like, Oh, I can't believe you're taking uh Lingling. And she's you know, she's like, Oh, you can take these kisses with you, and she's just kissing the bear. It's just great because you've got uh Amy and Molly, the two leads, Caitlin Dever and Beanie Feldstein, and Beanie is specifically just losing her shit because she knows what happened to this poor bear. Um and and then Will Forte goes to reach for it, she just slaps it out of his hands, like because he is not kissing that. That is awkward to the nth degree.

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That would be so it was long before that. Um yeah, but I think one of my favorite lines is when uh uh when Molly gets Amy to confess about what she does to like it's a secret. Let's share a secret. Oh, right. And we learn about Ling Ling's sorted past. And she something about like uh it was like uh you can make yourself come just by thinking about it. This is one thing I can't get my brain. Oh yeah.

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She's like, what are you doing?

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Just like, wow, that's revolutionary. I wish I could do that. My brain is so smart, but it can't do that.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Yeah, no, the uh they they do such an amazing job, and we will be talking about like the cast specifically, a casting crew, uh uh, you know, in the in the in the act two, if you will.

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Well, and I did realize I actually never answered your question about the hook. So um for me it was, I mean, I really did enjoy the opening scene.

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Um She's meditating, yeah, listening to the uh self-help, which literally just tells her, like, fuck those losers.

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I did enjoy that, and then you get like your title, boom, and the movie begins. But it was the very next scene when you know she goes outside and risk the risks that Olivia Wilde was gonna take. And uh and I loved the way that she let scenes unfold. It was it it made it so unpredictable, I felt. Yes. Because it would be like, okay, you know, like how long are we gonna do this? I don't know. It's like, you know what?

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Are we ever gonna go to school?

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I actually don't know how long this scene is gonna go, but I'm fine with it because it's it's hilarious.

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Oh yeah.

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And then she plays on that later on, which I can go into later, but I love the way that she would like let a scene unfold and you think you'd be going, like we talked a little bit about like, you know, triple A. You think that the scene is gonna be going into this emotional direction, and then all of a sudden it's like, wake up, you get slapped right across the face, and you're like, oh, yeah, it catches you by surprise.

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I don't know about you guys, but everybody suffers in high school. Everybody suffers, right? Yeah. So one of the things I found interesting was this seemed to be the nicest high school. Like everybody, even if they don't get along, like everybody's still nice. Like nobody's shoved in a locker. There's none of that. There's no like so mean and hurtful that like it destroys you watching somebody get destroyed. Yeah, uh, there's there's no violence, it's uh it's like the nicest high school, and everybody is so fucking smart. My god, they're all going to Georgetown and Stanford and Yale and Harvard, and you're like, you're seriously like what we're in academia and in Los Angeles this is high school.

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Yeah.

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Obviously, you know, this is this is a film uh where our two lead characters have spent their entire uh high school careers focusing so hard on uh their academia and and getting into those prestigious schools. Are you gonna leave any cherries for the rest of us for our second drink? Clearly. Um I mean she's just sitting there with a spoon at this point.

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It's a garnish.

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You're a garnish.

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Your face is a garnish.

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I'm gonna never mind. But so they are focusing their entire you know high school career at getting into good schools, and they have not done anything social. Uh, and it's not until um uh Molly realizes that the the people who are, you know, who she has felt are drastically beneath her, one of them is actually getting into the same school she is. Um and and then, you know, uh one of them is going right to Google uh instead of going to school, of course. He failed the seventh grade twice. Um and then uh you know, and then another character is getting into a prestigious school and she snaps. Right, she loses it. She starts asking everybody where the heck are you going next year? And they're like, there's apparently an unwritten rule at the school where you're not allowed to talk about where you're going. That must be a new thing.

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And a valedictorian, yeah, she made up because she didn't want other people to feel bad. Oh she would just say she was going to New Haven, and even the principal's like, we know that's where Yell is. Just say Yell already. Oh my god.

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Yeah. So she they they obviously realize, oh my god, you know, we graduate tomorrow. This is literally the last day of school. They graduate tomorrow, and they have done nothing. And so Molly decides that they are going to take four years of uh all the things they should have been doing and try to jam it into one evening. Um, and what I found so fascinating about how the story unfolds and how Olivia Wilde uh you know uh directed this film is it doesn't it it's not filmed like some sort of high school rom-com or or anything like that. In fact, actually in the the extra or the bonus features, they talk specifically that they were trying to shoot it like a lethal weapon or or uh you know like like a buddy cop training film training day and stuff like that. And like uh so like all the all the producers and everybody are like, okay, I'm I'm intrigued on how this is gonna go.

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They wanted the intensity you get with high stakes of you know uh a buddy cop film, uh, but they wanted that applied to high school because in high school it feels that intense, which is wonderfully conveyed. And uh I know I know I I had read that uh Olivia Wilde had talked about how she was inspired by like Clueless and Breakfast Club and Fast Times at Ridgemont High and Days of Confused. And it's interesting because I mean, yeah, I I I haven't seen all of those movies. I've seen half of them uh and I can see where some of that would come in, but what really struck me was Ferris Wheeler's Day Off. And that's because Ferris is just trying to get Cameron to do something all day, and Cameron's just being dragged along, and Ferris is the and that's Molly and Amy. Amy doesn't want to go, and Molly keeps making her go. And it's like you're gonna have a good time, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, and it's kind of like that situation. And and I I just love how everything kind of it's a rabbit hole that just keeps going. It's like a dream within a dream, it just keeps getting weirder and weirder. And my favorite character of all time is Gigi. Gigi. Yes, she is my favorite character. Oh my god, she's amazing.

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Yeah, how did you get here?

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Yeah, and it becomes one of those those jokes that that every time they end up at a new location, you're just waiting for her. Literally waiting for Gigi to show up again. And it's like a film without bail. She magically just pops out, yeah. And that's that's Billy Lord, uh, which is Carrie Fisher's daughter. And and literally just I don't want to say she steals the the show because, like I had already previously mentioned, everybody in this is amazing. Yeah, but she really steals some of the show.

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She does an amazing job. I mean, A, it's a dream role. Anybody would want this role. It's an amazing role. And for and also for a female character. Uh, I mean, this kind of role you'd normally see a guy play. Yep. Uh the wild card, the uh got the brakes card. I mean, this is this is the crazy person.

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Jumping off a yacht party where nobody else is.

SPEAKER_04 18:27

Yeah, she's crazy. Yeah. And uh it she does such an amazing job. And I think one of the writers uh in an interview, let me see, it was Katie.

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Katie uh Silverman.

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Right. So Katie said that they actually she was so amazing. Billy was so good in these scenes that they actually wrote her more scenes.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

Oh, that's okay. So that's probably how she magically shows up and everything. Yeah. So I I love that they're they're they're trying to get to uh the most popular kid, the the vice president's party. And every time they try to get there, because they've never been invited out to any anything else, they don't have the address. Right. So n and and they're trying to get a hold of you know, X, Y, and Z, number of people, um, and and it just keeps backfiring on them. And uh they they they call the one guy uh who is like the excessively rich guy, and he's like, Oh yeah, I'll get you to the party. And then he, of course, takes them to a yacht.

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His party.

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His party is where literally nobody is other than Gigi. But I love that in the car, in the car, they find what they think is like cocaine. Right. And uh they and like he like comes to a screeching halt and they are just coated, coated in it. And of course, they get upstairs and Gigi's like, oh, you smell like my vitamins. And it's like like just one of the creepiest little things.

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But yeah, but at the same time, you think it's gonna be a cocaine and they're gonna have this weird trip or why not. And no, no, it's not, it's really crushed up vitamins because she thinks snorting vitamins makes them more effective and because she's Gigi. Yeah. But at the same time, it's not like she's not gonna slip them a drug without knowing about it, and they're gonna trip balls later. Yes, and that is. It was a great fake out.

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Oh, you're like, oh, okay, so I guess they're not gonna have a trip-out moment. And let's talk about that trip-out moment because the Barbie doll was very unique, I don't think.

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At the same time, it's like, let's make a social commentary on women's image in the most amazing way.

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Yeah, they both turn into Barbie dolls.

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Uh full one wants to stay, the other one's like, no, I'll get out of here.

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It's like, I am look how hot I am. I am gorgeous. I just want to spend more time looking at me. You rock that bot.

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Yeah. No, stop it. We are leaving.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

I kind of want to see what what actually was happening, though, in that room. Because especially were they communicating? Because when they do leave, you see them actually like leave. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 20:55

And they are walking like they can't bend their legs.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

Yes, because they think that they're suddenly made up plastic.

SPEAKER_04 21:01

They're totally naked as Barbie dolls.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

That was a fear of my thing.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

It's clear that they're not actually naked in that in that exchange. They just are so far gone that they think they are.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Yeah, no, that that was one thing I'm not gonna lie. I did I did expect to see them in some form of uh undress as they left. And thankfully, you know, they they didn't go into that.

SPEAKER_04 21:25

And I also love that the Barbies they turned into were the characters they were given for the murder mystery. Yes, yes. So it's like, no, it's like she's she's falling off the dresser. She's falling off the dresser. Please say, but no, no, put my what was it, her her high heel, put in your cornhole. Yeah. Because her hand has a hole for the little fake corn that goes in. Yeah, that gets slotted in. Yes, dolls do that.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

Yeah. So that's that's that's uh and that's the second party that they end up getting to by the time that the strawberries, the laced strawberries, yeah, the theatrical dinner or murder mystery. And so then they are there and they realize they need to leave there. And that's that's when they head to the library. They do what they do best. Research.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

They research and then they have like that, you know, uh like gangster cop entrance into the library.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

They run that judge. They do run that judge.

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There's the whole montage of them doing research and looking at maps, and then it's like, oh wait, somebody posted a video of all these pizzas. Wait, 17 pizza boxes. How many how many orders like this could they have filled tonight? And uh and then in comes the entrance of my favorite minor character ever.

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Michael Patrick O'Brien, the pizza guy.

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The pizza delivery guy, aka the hillside strangler.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 22:46

And I love that he's so concerned about their safety.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

He's like, you guys can't do this.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

Do you guys have a gun? Like, what are what are you doing trying to let me? Because I have this right here in the glove compartment, like for my own protection.

SPEAKER_04 22:59

I could I could take you across straight lines in like 45 minutes and they could like chain you up and have a saucer of milk and leave you there for anything, like, what?

SPEAKER_01 23:05

Yeah, what? It's very specific.

SPEAKER_04 23:08

Very specific and it's like creepy.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

But they're wearing their ponytails on their faces to like to essentially mask that was convincing. Very convinced. That was very creative.

SPEAKER_04 23:17

What are you doing? Don't show me your passcode for your phone. That's why.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Security.

SPEAKER_04 23:22

Right. So he's he's trying to keep them safe. He's pointing out all how stupid they are, how he could he could do anything. This is terrible. Your children, you should know better. And they like get out of the car and they're like, whatever, and then later you see his sketch of the police department. You're like, oh my god, that man's a murderer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Right. I think to him, like, I'm thinking like his motivation is this is just way too creepishly easy. Easy. I just can't. I have you have to leave. Like you've creeped me out too much.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

Yeah, I bet he's having to be sitting there going, like, okay, there's got to be a camera somewhere. Like, this is this is a trick. Like, this is too easy. Well, since we're already in the car, can you take us? No! Get out of my car. Yes. Then they do finally arrive at the party. Yes. Um, and that is where I think some of the more interesting uh character choices for some of the secondary characters are made. Uh the the vice president, the most uh popular guy, uh starts talking uh Harry Potter to Molly, and Molly is already in love with him.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Um and um Well and you get to see a different like a different side of him, a di like see him in a different light, a different like there's there's he's a multidimensional character, like all the characters in this. And you know, it for me, I was like, I was waiting for him to be the stereotypical Jack that's going to like be cruel to her. He was never cruel to her.

SPEAKER_04 24:48

No, and I mean this stroke stroke stroke. You had a stroke? I did. Just now. Yeah. No, this this uh struck home for me uh in particular, having a uh uh similar party experience. Uh but not to not to get too into my own therapy sessions. Okay, but I had I had been in a place uh uh where I was with a group of people that I figured they didn't know who I the popular people didn't know who I was or whatnot. I was invisible, right? And then uh this girl stole my boots and then went to this party and I was like dude, I know all the popular people are at this party, and and I would never go to this party, but I want my boots back. So I went to this party on you know uh the idea that I'm gonna get them back, and I would never have like shown up at somebody's party without being invited. I was like, oh no, but they won't know. They'll just I'll sneak in, nobody'll notice me, blah blah blah. And the guy who answers the door uh is the host, and he's like, You came to one of my parties? Oh my god, you can choose the music. And I was like, Oh my god, no, wait. No, I'm gonna draw it. Too much pressure. I'm too awful. But at the same time, really, you know who I am, and you wanted me to go to your party? Oh my god. And I love that that's what happens to Molly. And she comes in and Molly and Annie, both of them are welcomed almost. And everybody's like, oh thank goodness, we've been wanting this since seventh grade. We were so excited you're here.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Again, nicest high school ever. There might be more nice high schools than you think. You're always in inside your own head thinking, oh, these people don't like me, or these people have a chip on their shoulder. You you know, because people aren't don't actually get to know everyone.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

Well, and it's true, but like with AAA, um, I feel like she has all the reason in the world for how she's been treated in high school to be a horrible person. And a horrible person. She has she like she has that motivation and that and in my opinion, that right. Like you get it, but because you were seeing this other side, if it was somebody else's story, you would only see that mean side. So it's amazing that she could actually have this moment where she could break through that and be like, Look, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna pull over and I'm gonna give you a ride.

SPEAKER_03 27:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

Not roadside assistance. No, but actually roadside assistance. She's always the car driving around town for people to help her.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

I think my favorite my favorite thing in that whole scene is where do you live? I don't even know where I'm going.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Very towards the end, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:29

So the really uh rich guy that hangs out with Gigi Jared. Yep. Uh he is uh he's more than what he seems. And we are given like these glimpses of him early on in his entrances and his sad, sad party that nobody came to. And like the rumors about him, uh like being having like that his father paid for a prostitute. Right. Uh for a birthday. Yeah. And all that. And then you find out, like, you know, at the big party at the end, he just kind of just opens up and it's like, I wanna I want to be a py or he's like, he wants to design airplanes, he wants to design airplanes and produce musical theaters. You know what? We've had enough of the revivals. Let's get some original work out there. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

You're like, wait, he's not even a theater kid. Like, what the yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

In that moment, I was like, I mean, I love this kid. I mean, I've loved him throughout the whole movie because I think he's hilarious. Yes, but I was like, I want to know you. Yeah. How does your brain work?

SPEAKER_04 28:26

How did you get there? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Yeah. Uh oh, and Miss Fine.

SPEAKER_04 28:31

We haven't talked about Miss Fine.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

We have not talked about Jessica Williams uh from The Daily Show.

SPEAKER_04 28:35

It's in a lot of high school movies where you have the cool teacher, and this cool teacher actually goes to the party because she was uncool in high school and she's trying to make up for it now.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

Well, she also saves the day and and and comes and picks them up.

SPEAKER_04 28:48

She does. She saves them and then she has this uh well, she's already there, so and then she has a wardrobe in her car. And I love that.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Her wardrobe.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

I love the whole sequence.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

It's all sequence, right? Sequence, sequins, and sequins, man.

SPEAKER_04 29:02

But I am not surprised that you know uh uh uh that a woman uh has a whole bunch of clothes in her car.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

Specifically in she mentions I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a woman in LA.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

Like no, it makes total sense, actually. Really I have I have a ton of clothes in my car in my car, and I'm live, you know, in the suburbs of Chicago as a mid-30s guy that shouldn't have clothes in his car. So for me, I had no issue.

SPEAKER_04 29:30

You were yeah, you're the Midwest Mrs. Fine or Miss Fine.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Oh my. But the uh speaking of Miss Fine, what was interesting about how that played out is instead of it just being a comic bit, like you you could see why, you know, because of that that conversation in the car on the way there, you could see it out.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Yeah, don't be like me.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

You could see her motivation, and it and it didn't take a whole lot of effort. You could see this other side of this character. And you know, she goes into the party because she she she wants that experience that she missed out on, and she knows that this is a terrible idea, but then when Theo, you know, who clearly has a thing for her, he's the one that failed, he's the one that failed seventh grade twice. She's very concerned about his age, yes.

SPEAKER_04 30:21

But he did fail the seventh grade twice, so he's actually 20 years old and it works fine. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

It's totally it's totally acceptable at that point.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

Yeah, it's totally fine. Totally his student. Legally no longer his student as of tomorrow. I mean, tonight is a problem.

SPEAKER_04 30:36

The principal is the Uber driver. Yep. Yes, the Lyft.

unknown 30:39

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

I thought it was Lyft, wasn't it? It doesn't matter. He's the ride shared shared.

SPEAKER_04 30:44

And I do love that we learn about uh we learn about sex through porn. Oh, yes. It's like what do you do in that moment? Oh, yeah, because it's not like there's a talk about it exactly how you do it. No, we learn from porn. Well, yeah. That's because we are in a puritanical society, which is why porn is so popular because nobody talks about I mean, did you want to learn about it from anybody else? Probably not. Probably want to just look it up online.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

I guess before the web magazines and uh adult videos.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Uh yeah, maybe adult videos. But yeah, the the the the uh even the the Playboys and the and the hustler.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

Because people only read those for the articles.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

Of course.

SPEAKER_04 31:20

They actually have good articles. Oh, sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Um But that that doesn't really help you with the the actual how-to, uh if you will. Right. Um I just I just love that specifically with Jason Sadeikis and and and what a what a choice role to give your husband. Um uh but but so he's he they they're they're running out of battery in their phone, and of course, you know, with with today's uh wonderful cars, uh they plug in uh an adapter to the car to you know um watch porn quietly between the headset that they have, and he thinks they're listening to their own music instead of what he's put on, and so of course switches over to you know their audio and it what does he even say?

SPEAKER_02 32:09

Is that the new was it Nicki Minaj or something?

SPEAKER_04 32:13

From what you hear, what you hear, what you actually hear makes you go, what in God's name is the visual? Like I can't imagine how that that that is a weird sound.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

It it goes it goes well with their expressions as they're watching.

SPEAKER_04 32:32

Well, and I also love I love the mean girl, uh we actually have a mean girl. Uh and uh I love uh Amy's uh uh back to her when uh they're they're going back and forth being mean to each other, and Amy's accusing her of, you know, like, why are you being so mean? Why are you so mean? blah blah blah. And then she goes, Well, you know, you peaked, you're gonna be that girl that peaked in high school.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:54

And then all of a sudden we're making out. And it's a whole different scene.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

Totally different scene. Another example of how you think this is going one way, and then it goes a different way. Yeah. And I'm so glad that you decided on the horny school girl instead of my suggestion, which was PBR with a cigarette.

SPEAKER_03 33:11

Oh, syllabus.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

Yeah, that I wouldn't have I wouldn't have drank tonight.

SPEAKER_04 33:17

No. This is why we're older and more mature. We would know you turn away when you throw up on somebody. Don't vomit on the person in front of you.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

But this was a learning moment frame.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

It was she didn't just pull a cigarette out of her mouth.

SPEAKER_04 33:33

I mean, I would have thrown up too. Yeah, I pretty sure in a bathroom and there's a shower right there.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

Oh, yeah, that was very convenient. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:40

So the choices for the wardrobe in this were very unique across the board for every character, and it just made it uh so much more fun. Yeah. No matter how weird the humor, no matter how slapstick the humor, there's always depth behind it. There's always uh something behind it, and that to me really connects. That makes it funnier, that makes it more enjoyable, that makes you really connect to the film.

SPEAKER_02 34:02

It's what makes it a really smart script, too. Yeah, like really smart.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

And uh the other thing uh before we stop uh for a break, uh Malala.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 34:12

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

Oh, did you know what that was?

SPEAKER_04 34:16

I did, I looked it up.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

Okay, well, what would you like to explain? A couple times during the the the film, um uh Molly or Amy says Malala, and essentially what what they're only get like one of them a year. Exactly. So it it's essentially calling in the the the ace of spades, you're saying you're going to do whatever it is I said you're going to do uh regardless. And that the reason why is no questions asked.

SPEAKER_04 34:42

Right. And this is just a it's a pact between uh these two friends, and I love that there isn't this giant exposition about why. It's just an automatic, this is their relationship, they know each other so well, they've been friends forever, and this is something they set up. But they call it Malala because of the uh Nobel Prize laureate, um, the youngest one. But she's uh uh an activist for uh women's education, girls' education. Uh and if you don't know who Malala is, uh look her up because everybody pretty much does. If you see her image, you know who she is. Yes, yes. She's an amazing uh young woman, and that uh these two women, of course, are going to be like that, of course, is gonna be their secret word. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

Well, I mean, even in the the opening scene, you see uh Ruth Peter Ginsburg, you see uh Michelle Obama, you see all these these females who strong women. Uh and again, that's why she's listening to this mantra that's you know, keep calm and you know, keep focus on your school and then fuck those people who you know what the other thing I loved about this, you got a bunch of high school girls, and there's never body image.

SPEAKER_04 35:49

It's never about you need to be thinner, you need to be uh prettier, you need to wear this outfit. We don't, you know, it's never the overalls and the glasses and the paint.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

The paint.

SPEAKER_04 35:58

Yeah, it's never any of that.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

Cannot stop singing the praises of this. So uh we'll be back to imbibe more after this.

SPEAKER_04 36:06

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SPEAKER_01 36:40

Once again, you are listening to Imbibe Cinema. I'm Jonathan C. Leggett, and I am here along with Michael Nowans.

SPEAKER_04 36:47

Trisha Leggett.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

Trisha, what are you currently imbibing?

unknown 36:56

Don't judge me.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

They are baked chips, so they're good for her.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

That's why I'm gonna eat them too.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

Yeah. And I'm sadly on the other side of the table. Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 37:08

Oh, you judge their smell, shut.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

Well, they are very pungent chips, irregardless. Oh my shit.

SPEAKER_04 37:15

That wasn't me.

unknown 37:17

Just say it.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

They are quite good. They are delicious.

SPEAKER_04 37:21

Make to deliciousness.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

We are discussing Book Smart while imbibing uh horny schoolgirl honey. Yes. Uh do you like this episode despite what just happened? Please subscribe or follow us on your favorite podcast providers to get the new episodes as soon as they become available, which is every fortnight. Uh rate and leave us a review so we can uh help reach that larger audience. And uh you can also follow Invibe Cinema on Facebook or Twitter. Uh so we we were talking quite a lot about story, and I know that it's uh at first I thought it was gonna be darn near impossible to to uh talk about all the amazing performances from either the cast and the crew without either missing someone and and leaving a name off uh or having a three-hour podcast, even though we just had a 45-minute uh magic of editing. You're the magic of editing. Um, but I really think that we need to talk about um just the the cast of characters and and the and the directing, the cinematography, the just everything about this was so amazing. Like for for uh her first feature uh film, uh specifically I love that Olivia Wilde had directed a red hot chili peppers promotional video before.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

I did not know that.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

That's awesome. Yes, so it's one of her like she has like three shorts uh and and and then this is her feature. But it was red hot chili. Yeah, red hot chili peppers, that would be my great way.

SPEAKER_02 38:49

After seeing this movie, I'm first in line for any future Olivia Wilde movie. I don't even care. I don't need to see the trailer, I'm I'm game.

SPEAKER_04 38:58

And the fact that uh she takes her approach to it, like she had the two leads uh live together. Yeah, she suggested that. Uh she knew right away, I think uh Beanie's character, Molly. Uh Beanie read for somebody else first, and that character was cut from the film, and then she decided, no, no, I want Beanie for Molly. Uh and uh she I'd seen interviews with her about this, but uh I from my own uh experience, Olivia Wilde, I I'd seen her on a house. That's pretty much how I I uh knew who she was. But then I saw this interview with her one night, and I was like, I love Olivia Wilde and I want to be her friend. Oh, you have to talk about this interview. Because this is where, okay, first of all, I'm pregnant, so I'm emotionally susceptible anyway. At that time, not right now. Right now I'm a cold bitch. But before that, I was pregnant, I was all warm and fuzzy. So I'm watching this uh interview where she's talking about how when she was pregnant, because she had done a horror film at the time, how she was uh when she was pregnant, uh she had been loved watching uh there was a I think it's a TLC show or something where uh it's like I I didn't know I was pregnant, and I was like, What is this? I need to watch this. And then she tells me about her, or tells me she tells me in this interview that I'm watching.

SPEAKER_02 40:09

She reached out through the TV.

SPEAKER_04 40:11

You can tell she was pregnant at this point and I have this connection. Um she says uh her favorite episode is there's a baby in my sweatpants, and I'm like, I need to watch this show. So uh if you ever want to see that, you should watch it. It's very interesting. But and then she follows it up with uh afterwards that uh she would was woken up in the middle of the night, like 4 a.m. after she'd had her child. Yes, after the baby is born, baby's in the nursery or you know, the room next door or whatnot, and you have that real like the technology we have today where we just like back in the day with our parents, they would just like put you to bed and be like, hopefully you're still there in the morning. Or in John's family's case, it lives.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

I was I was a d a devil baby.

SPEAKER_04 40:54

So she had she had the this monitor that was the uh video audio monitor. We opted not to get the video monitor, we'd heard too many creepy things about it. Yeah, so anyway, uh she had the this monitor. She wakes up at like four in the morning to the sound of like horrifying sound. And she looks at the monitor and she says, It looks like a demon's colonoscopy. That's what's going on on the monitor. And her first thought from a dead sleep is, Oh my god, a demon has my baby.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

Well, yeah, I mean I would think the same thing out of a dead sleep. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 41:27

Two things I'm like, yes, we think exactly alike. That's where my mind goes. Uh, especially if you've been watching Supernatural and you're pregnant, and all of a sudden all that Catholic comes back rushing at you, and you're like, I just can't. The baby has eyes that are really dark at night when you have to spend time with them, and you're just like, I don't do I have a demon baby. But anyway, lack of sleep is dangerous. Um way too much information. Anyway, she goes into this room, and again, I love Olivia. She goes into this room. How many of you were like, a demon has the baby? Let's wait till morning.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

Until I wake up enough to know bad things.

SPEAKER_04 42:02

Or you find you find some holy water, you get across, you go in there with a old priest and a young priest. Right, you know, but she just went in there with nothing. She just went in there to save her child.

SPEAKER_02 42:11

She's Olivia Wilde, she can take it on demon.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

Yeah, exactly. She just goes right in there for it. And uh only to find the child is uh at in the uh in the crib, uh gnawing, chewing on the monitor.

SPEAKER_01 42:21

Video monitor, literally just mouth like you know, licking, licking the lens.

SPEAKER_04 42:26

Just teething on it. Right. And uh yeah, so that would that's when I was like, this woman is awesome.

SPEAKER_01 42:31

Yeah. That's a great story. Yeah, she's a great storyteller when she was being interviewed and when she's directing a film.

SPEAKER_04 42:38

Yeah, wait a bring it back to the topic.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

See?

SPEAKER_04 42:41

Look at you.

SPEAKER_02 42:41

That's so professional. I mean, really, there are not very many movies out there uh or plays, stories in general. Um, I feel that you can break down every character in the story. You can break down their moment. Yeah, well, and not even like not even just their moment, like break down who they are so you can see them from multiple different angles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:12

Well, and like the theme, the message here being you're not, you know, when you you think you're in high school and you think you know who you are, what you want to be, and it's all about a just a defining moment. Who am I going to be? What do I want? And it's all about one thing. The kids get so focused on one thing, where their career path is, what school they're going to, uh, you know, uh there uh there's so much there that's very specific and it's just one-dimensional because you focus all your energy in one one uh one way. And the fact that because it is a very intense environment, uh the fact that it it's the the message, the moral of the story is there is more than there's more to you than one thing. There is more to everybody than one thing, and you've got to take the time to see past what your initial impression is, because there is So much more there, especially to to high school students. And especially like that, you know, uh girls are funny.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 44:07

And filthy. And that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 44:09

Mm-hmm. Yes. And witty. And at the same time, I think that that we also need to pay homage to uh Emily Halpern, uh, Susanna Fogle, Sarah Haskins, and Katie Silverman. Uh they are the four writers of this film, and and you know, uh just absol yes, uh I I will give applause on that as well. They did an amazing uh job setting all these characters up for for just pure comedy gold.

SPEAKER_04 44:35

And they did say, uh, I think in the we watched the behind the scenes bit for the uh the movie, and they talked about how Olivia had had ideas and they had incorporated them in the script, and the fact that it was very collaborative. It wasn't an ego-driven set, it was very collaborative. Everybody felt uh like they were having a great time. And uh and then I read somewhere like the the actual first version of the script came out in like 2009. So this is something that's been in the making for a very long time.

SPEAKER_03 45:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:03

Not not alone. There are many scripts that were first introduced decades or at least a decade before they come out.

SPEAKER_01 45:09

Sure, sure. And Emily Halpern and Sarah Haskins had actually been uh working together uh a film called Dilf in 2010. Um, but actually a number of of the credits that each of them have on IMDB are are with each other. Uh so they seem to be kind of a unit. Susanna Fogle uh uh helped write uh The Spy Who Dumped Me. Uh and then you got Katie Silverman who uh uh wrote How to Be Single and Uh Isn't It Romantic. I mean a lot of like female driven uh stories, female-centered because they're not common, sadly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:44

Well, and the cinematographer for this, uh Jason uh uh McCormick. Now he he did that one shot, that shot that was all the way through the party where Amy is looking for Molly after finding out that the girl that she liked was it Ryan is straight after all. Yep, and and uh with a guy that Molly liked. And so you have like this moment where she's traveling through the house and it's just one shot. The whole thing. And uh but he did what what did he do?

SPEAKER_01 46:13

He was actually uh that wasn't the the cinematographer, I don't think that was a the steady cam operator.

SPEAKER_03 46:18

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

Um uh uh a uh the steady cam operator was uh Chris Heroff. Because specifically the reason that they got that steady cam operator and the reason that they were able to get the shots that they they got was because he had already done uh some major motion picture steady cams.

SPEAKER_04 46:36

Right, it's like action movie quality shots for a comedy.

SPEAKER_02 46:40

I mean the whole movie in general feels very natural light. Yep. Um especially the party. It just you know, as as you know, glamorous as it can be, like that part where she's being like Oh yeah, the dance sequence and being drawn out to like, you know, the the pool and and that under the the water bit and all that, it still felt it felt very real. Like a high school party. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

I I don't know many high school parties where like they turn the lights like low or something like that. Like no, it's uh you know, there's there's light. People are trying to see what the hell they're doing. They're they're talking to their friends and having a grand old time. Uh I didn't go to many high school parties. Yeah. So so we're literally, I think the three went to high school theater parties.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

Those are not high school parties.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

No, they're not, and they're well lit. Um so I I really want to call out uh Allison Jones. Um so Allison Jones was the uh the casting for this, and I honestly I don't the there are some people um who uh Ryan Victoria uh uh Ruska. This is actually her only credit. You know, they they they got people uh like um to Billy Lord, uh Carrie Fisher's daughter. Like the the the the range of the talent that she found is just so amazing to to witness because she really assembled this all-star cast of people who aren't necessarily stars.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

For the average moviegoer. You look at this movie and you go, okay, when I watch the trailer, I think, oh, so the big names are the side characters like Jason Sudekis and Lisa Coudreau and Will Forte. They're helping, you know, this this indie film with these new talents um shine, and then you watch the movie, and then you walk away and you kind of forget about you know Jason Sadeakis.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

Jason Sudakis and Lisa Coudra. You forget they're even in it. You're exactly right. It's like these these bigger name people were were in there for maybe a day, uh, practically. Uh you know, that they were not there for for a long uh period of time, and yet it just even their being there for that day player, two scenes or whatever, just brought so much life and interest to the characters uh and and to everything that was going on on this on the screen. Yeah. Um another thing that I wanted to call out, because uh to me it's just very uh kismet. Uh, but uh Dan uh Nakamuro, uh who did the music for this, uh also did the music for and get this. Here we go. Ocean's 11. Sure, Scott Pilgrim, and Always Be My Maybe. The original songs, the original songs that the band plays, tennis ball, and and and all that. So like we're we're we're bringing this full circle right here.

SPEAKER_02 49:47

That's awesome. Um I know you know, does he do shows? I will go.

SPEAKER_01 49:51

Yeah, I would I would love to see his uh his original work.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

I also want to get a tennis ball from them.

SPEAKER_01 49:57

Yes, that would be really cool. Next up on my list, I guess, um, is uh Jamie Gross, who did the editing. Um because uh you know, again, when Olivia Wilde said, Look, I don't want this to be shot in you know in high school comedy fashion. I want this to be shot in training day, in in lethal weapon.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

Took that approach from an editor's standpoint, too.

SPEAKER_01 50:21

Exactly. And the editing of this film is just beautiful. You're constantly waiting to see what's going to happen next.

SPEAKER_04 50:28

Oh, okay. And speaking of that, um, I love the way the uh the car sequence at the end is shot. I love how it just gets weirder and weirder and more more incoherent about how they're driving. No, how they're driving to get to graduation. It starts out like they're driving, they're gonna go really fast. They're gonna get there in seven minutes instead of like twenty. And then all of a sudden it's just like we're on one side of the road, we're on the other side of the road. Yeah. And all of a sudden we're just screaming and screaming and spinning, and it's like, what the hell? Burst through a gate, smoke up a you know, it's just a very, very, uh, very cop entrance. It was perfect.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

All to get to graduation so that she can give the commencement speech.

SPEAKER_02 51:07

And we're all just fine with that. Yeah. Not like, okay, you were driving very recklessly. We're just like, yeah, good for you.

SPEAKER_04 51:15

Way to get out of your shell.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

Well, I I I specifically love that uh um way to bust your friend out of jail. Jared, uh the Skylar uh Gazondo is is is is meant to go up in her proxy and give her speech, and her speech is it's like if you were a white man, he's just like, well, this is really awkward, but I love that.

SPEAKER_02 51:37

I love that exchange too, where it's like, um if if she weren't here on time, I'm supposed to start it. I don't think that that's right. She says that um in Congress, and it starts to explain. Oh, yeah. She definitely said that.

SPEAKER_01 51:52

All right, okay, you can go on. Yeah. That's all that is necessary to uh to convince him.

SPEAKER_02 51:59

All right, go ahead, poke the bear, dude. Alright. Okay, first one here is from uh Impulse Gamer.

SPEAKER_01 52:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

Says Book Smart is sometimes fun and enjoyable, but it could have been much sharper.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

Much sharper? I I think that every witty retort that they have in the entire jokes about Malala for Christ's sake. Like you you can't get more like razor sharp. It's a gamer. Which means he's just a gaming troll. This is probably probably somebody who sits there and like while he's gaming, they game on impulse.

SPEAKER_02 52:44

So they review on impulse too. Yeah. Don't think about it. You know what then?

SPEAKER_04 52:48

I want them to review that monster thing that you play, because that the plot on that is just stabbing monsters in the butt. Oh, monster hunter? Yeah, that's just stabbing monsters in the butt. That's a terrible, terrible plot.

SPEAKER_01 52:58

I have a video game I play with my friends called Monster Hunter, and and specifically the weapon that I choose and the fact that I'm a cowardly person, I just stab the monster in the butt.

SPEAKER_04 53:07

I hear everybody does that. It's so common.

SPEAKER_01 53:08

No, Tom, Tom tends to use a bow and arrow, and so he shoots him in the face. He's he's much more daring than I am. I don't want to be anywhere near their face because they bite. Oh, so I shoot them in the butt.

SPEAKER_02 53:18

There's no point.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

Or stab them in the butt.

SPEAKER_02 53:19

There's no point.

SPEAKER_01 53:20

This got awkward.

SPEAKER_02 53:22

Anyway. Alright, so next one. Film comment magazine.

SPEAKER_04 53:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

Forgive me if I'm bored by this. Politics. No, you don't forgive me.

SPEAKER_01 53:35

You are unforgiven.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

Politics, somewhat aside, the comedy teens need today certainly isn't a fairy tale about a good-natured struggle to the top.

SPEAKER_04 53:44

What do we need? They don't tell us what we need? I mean, obviously I don't. I'm too old for it, and so are they. Because obviously they don't.

SPEAKER_01 53:53

Back in my day.

SPEAKER_04 53:57

Somebody didn't have a lingling. That's what this is.

SPEAKER_01 53:59

Yeah, they they need to get a lingling and they just need to get ling laid.

SPEAKER_04 54:03

Exactly, because that that makes it reduces endorphins, right? They're just very unhappy.

SPEAKER_01 54:09

It doesn't reduce, it produces.

SPEAKER_04 54:12

Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 54:13

You don't want to reduce endorphins. That sounds like a horrible idea. That's depression 101. Excuse me. Well, I reduce some endorphins here.

SPEAKER_04 54:24

Great. Now my mom's gonna listen to this. Totally upset. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

Alright, and our final one is uh from Film Drunk. Oh, good. You'd think that that would be fitting, right? Well, apparently at Film Drunk, when you're film drunk, you say this. There's a lot of political window dressing for a movie that's almost studiously unpolitical. Name dropping Malala in a teen sex romp seems a bit much.

SPEAKER_04 54:53

Okay, um so let me get political here. Okay. This is me being political. Um women are 51% of the population, and uh it's about time we get some reflection of ourselves beyond being objectified, and I'm so sorry that that's uh a problem for people that uh it's just sad. It's just sad.

SPEAKER_01 55:19

Toxic masculinity.

SPEAKER_04 55:21

No, and I know, and I know it's so political. It's from political dude. Yeah, you would think he would be.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

Women can't be smart and funny.

SPEAKER_04 55:35

No, we would never make this movie if it wasn't political because that's not I mean, what is he what that's what I'm taking away from it. Am I wrong? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

His his his his dick is hurt. He's he's he's scared that now, you know, they'll be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 55:50

Send Gigi there. Send her.

SPEAKER_02 55:52

Gigi, we would like you to to uh to go over and scare the shit out of the way.

SPEAKER_01 55:57

Yeah, please, please. Billy Lord just keeps showing up at random places for this guy and like just be like she has better things to do.

SPEAKER_02 56:06

Yeah, that's true. She does.

SPEAKER_01 56:08

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